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From: lamont@hyperreal.com (Lamont Granquist) Newsgroups: alt.drugs Subject: Watched Chemicals Message-ID: <1991Nov14.060000.27218@milton.u.washington.edu> Date: 14 Nov 91 06:00:00 GMT This is from Psychedelic Chemistry by Michael Valentine Smith. Available from Loompanics Unlimited, PO Box 1197, Port Townsend, WA 98368 USA. A catalog of books is available for $3.00. I'm fairly impressed with this book because it documents most sources -- journal articles and patents. DEA WATCHED LIST OF CHEMICALS (Compiled by Richard C. Hall III) Many of these chemicals are suspicious only if ordered by individuals, in large or in repeated orders. Others are suspect under any conditions. Acetic Anhydride Acetone Dicarboxylic Acid N-Acetylanthranilic Acid N-Acetylmescaline Aluminum Foil (?) Ammonium Acetate Anthranilic Acid Barbituric Acid Banzaldehyde Benzocaine Benzyl Methyl Ketone Beta Keto Clutaric Acid mono-Bromobenzene Chloroamphetamine o-Chloroaniline Chloromethanamphetamine Citral Cyclhexanone Dextrose, anhydrous Dextrose, monohydrate 5,5-Dibromobarbituric Acid 2,5-Diethoxytetrahydrofuran Diethylamine Diethylamine Malonate 1,3-Diethyl-2-Thiobarbituric Acid Dihydroergotamine Dimethylamine Dimethyl Acetone Dimethyl Beta Keto Glutaric Acid Dimethyl Sulfoxide (DMSO) Ephedrine Ergocristine Ergocryptine Ergonovine Ergotamine Ergothioneine Ethyl Ether Formamide Formic Acid Glyoxylic Acid Hexane Hydrogen Hydrogen Iodide Hydroxylamine Hydroxylamine Hydrochloride 5-Hydroxyuracil Indole Isobarbituric Acid Lactose Lidocaine Lithium Aluminum Hydride Magnesium Metal (esp. Turnings) Malonic Acid Methylamine Methylamine Hydrochloride 2-Methyl Benzoxazone 3,4-Methylenedioxy compounds (any) N-Methylmescaline N-Methyl Formamide Monoethanolamine 5-Nitrobarbituric Acid Nitroethane 5-Nitrosothiobarbituric Acid Olivetol Oxalyl Chloride Phenyl-2-Propanone Phenylacetic Acid Phenylacetone Phenyl Magensium Bromide Phenylpropanolamine Phosphorus Oxychloride Piperidine Piperonyl & related compounds Potassium Cyanide Procaine Quinine Sodium Acetate Sodium Cyanide Sodium Formate Sulfanilamide Thiourea p-Toluene Sulfonic Acid o-Toluidine Toluol Trifluoracetic Acid 2,4,5-Trihydroxypyrimidine 3,4,5-Trimethoxybenzaldehyde Tryptophan Tryosine Urea Also, in the front of the book there appears this note: Orders for certain chemicals used to make psychedelics (especially large orders in suspect areas) are sometimes checked by narcs. Indole, lithium aluminum hydride, trimethoxybenzaldehyde, phenyl-2-propanol, diethylamine, olivetol and ergotamine are among those watched. The vast majority of the homologs and analogs described here are, however, legal to manufacture and use. [not sure if this last statement is accurate after the Designer Drug laws] For lists of proscribed drugs, see the Code of Federal Regulations 21: part 300 to end, the U.S. Pharmacoepoeia 19:690 or write to the Drug Enforcement Administration, Dept of Justice, 1405 1st St. N.W., Washington D.C. 20537. There are also state laws to contend with. A current list of DEA watched chemicals appears in the back of this book. The copywrite date on the book is 1981, and naturally I didn't get permission to reprint this and will burn in hell forever. Spelling errors are also probably mine and I expect them to lengthen my stay in copywrite purgatory... -- Lamont Granquist "If the principle were to prevail of a common law [ie. lamont@hyperreal.com a single government] being in force in the United States...it would become the most corrupt government on the Earth" -- Thomas Jefferson to G Granger (1800) ============================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1993 15:36:02 EDT From: <JXC35@psuvm.psu.edu> Message-ID: <93254.153602JXC35@psuvm.psu.edu> Newsgroups: alt.drugs Subject: Re: DEA watched list of chemicals Its more difficult than that. The DEA has three tiers of observation when it comes to chemicals. First tier is the actual illegal drugs, which can be bought from chemical supply companies (for biochem and chem research). These are watched very carefully, with the research groups being subjected to rigourous security checks, and all material has to be accounted for. Second tier is chemicals that are direct precursors to illegal chemicals, or combinations of chemicals that can be used to manufacture illegal chemicals. These are watched closely, and will merit detailed survelliance if not ordered by reputable research groups or companies. The third tier are all other chemicals not commonly found in public. The DEA watches all individuals that order chemicals very closely, so expect to be questioned and required to account for what you ordered, legally. Many chemical supply companies will not ship chemicals to individuals. Even creating a front company works only some of the time, if the chemicals you order are not obviously usfull for drug (or explosives) manufacture. Often illegal labs use three or more front companies to avoid detection (and a large number get busted anyway). To answer your question: which chemicals are DEA watched? All of them! Phred PSmIth, Galactic Gadabout ============================================================================= Subject: [anonymous] Controlled Substances Message-ID: <1992Sep30.204024.22388@u.washington.edu> Date: 30 Sep 92 20:40:24 GMT Originator: lamont@hyperreal.com Well, here's the complete list of controlled substances as contained in the 1992 Sigma catalog. I'm not a chemist, so I can only accept responsibility for transcription errors. Net chemists please check this over and comment. In general, 'a' means 'alpha', 'B' means capital 'beta', and 'd' means 'delta', while 'delta' means capital 'delta'. 'D' and 'L' mean 'dextro' and 'levo'. Read the list and you'll know what I mean. I haven't checked this against any other lists of controlled or watched chemicals, and I can't guarantee that this is a complete list or a completely accurate one. However, there has been discussion along this line in alt.drugs and I thought I would offer this as a start at least. Alt.drug gurus: should/could this be placed in an anonymous ftp depository? >From 1992 Sigma Chemical Company catalog, pages 1628 & 1629: DEA CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES CLASSES I-IV Class Name III Allylcyclopentenylbarbituric Acid II Alphaprodine HCl III Alphenal IV Alprazolam IV Alprazolam-d5 II Amobarbital II Amobarbital Sodium II L-Amphetamine Free Base II D-Amphetamine Sulfate II DL-Amphetamine Sulfate II D-Amphetamine-d3 Sulfate III 5a-Androstan-17B-ol-3-one III 5-Androstene-3B,17B-diol III 5-Androstene-3B,17B-diol 3-Acetate III 5-Androstene-3B,17B-diol 3-Acetate 17-Benzoate III 5-Androstene-3B,17B-diol 17-Benzoate III 5-Androstene-3B,17B-diol Diacetate III 5-Androstene-3B,17B-diol Dipropionate III 5-Androstene-3B,17B-diol 3-Sulfate III 5-Androstene-3B,17B-diol 17-Sulfate III Aprobarbital IV Barbital IV Barbital Sodium II Benzoylecgonine Hydrate II Benzoylecgonine-d3 III Benzphetamine HCl III Bolasterone IV Bromazepam I Bufotenine Monooxalate III Butabarbital III Butalbital III Butethal I Cannabidiol I Cannabinol IV Chloral Hydrate IV Chlordiazepoxide HCl IV Chlordiazepoxide-d5 III 4-Chlorotestosterone Acetate IV Clobazam IV Clonazepam IV Clorazepate Dipotassium II Cocaine Free Base II Cocaine HCl II Cocaine-d3 II Cocaine-d3 HCl II Codeine III 1-Dehydro-17a-methyltestosterone III 9(11)-Dehydro-17a-methyltestosterone III 1-Dehydrotestosterone III 1-Dehydrotestosterone Acetate III 1-Dehydrotestosterone Benzoate III 1-Dehydrotestosterone Undecylenate IV Delorazepam II (-)-Deoxyephedrine HCl II (+-)-Deoxyephedrine HCl II (+-)-Deoxyephedrine-d5 HCl IV Desmethyldiazepam IV Desmethyldiazepam-d5 III 5,5-Diallylbarbituric Acid IV Diazepam IV Diazepam-d5 IV Diethylpropion HCl I N,N-Diethyltryptamine I (+-)-2,5-Dimethoxy-4-bromo-amphetamine HBr I (+-)-2,5-Dimethoxy-4-methyl-amphetamine HCl I N,N-Dimethyltryptamine II Diphenoxylate HCl II Ecgonine HCl II Ecgonine-d3 HCl II Ecgonine Methyl Ester HCl II Ecgonine Methyl Ester-d3 HCl IV Estazolam IV Ethinamate II Ethylmorphine IV Fenfluramine HCl IV (+)-Fenfluramine IV Fenproporex HCl II Fentanyl Citrate II Fentanyl-d5 Citrate IV Flunitrazepam III Fluoxymesterone IV Flurazepam Dihydrochloride II DL-Glutethimide III Hexobarbital II Hydrocodone Bitartrate II Hydromorphone HCl III 11B-Hydroxytestosterone I 11-Hydroxy-delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol I Ibogaine HCl III 11-Ketotestosterone II Levorphanol Tartrate IV (+-)-Lorazepam IV Lormetazepam III D-Lysergic Acid IV Medazepam II Meperidine HCl IV Mephobarbital IV Meprobamate I Mescaline Hemisulfate I Mescaline HCl I Mescaline Sulfate III Mesterolone II (+)-Methadone HCl II Methadone-d3 HCl II (+)-Methamphetamine HCl I Methaqualone Free Base I Methaqualone HCl I Methaqualone-d4 I p-Methoxyamphetamine HCl III 17a-Methyl-5a-androstan-17B-ol-3-one III 17a-Methyl-5-androstene-3B,17B-diol III 17a-Methyl-5-androstene-3B,17B-diol Dipropionate I (+-)-3,4-Methylenedioxyamphetamine HCl I (+-)-3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine HCl I a-Methylfentanyl I 3-Methylfentanyl II Methylphenidate HCl III 17a-Methyltestosterone III 17a-Methyltestosterone-d3 III Methyprylon II Morphine Sulfate II Morphine-d3 HCl II Morphine-3-B-D-Glucuronide II Morphine-6-B-D-Glucuronide III Nalorphine HCl IV Nitrazepam II Norcodeine HCl I Normorphine HCl I 11-Nor-delta8-tetrahydrocannabinol-9-carboxylic Acid I 11-Nor-delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol-9-carboxylic Acid II Noroxymorphone III 19-Nortestosterone III 19-Nortestosterone Decanoate III 19-Nortestosterone Glucuronide III 19-Nortestosterone Phenylpropionate III 19-Nortestosterone Propionate II Opium Powder IV Oxazepam IV Oxazepam-d5 IV Oxazolam II Oxycodone HCl III Oxymetholone II Oxymorphone IV Paraldehyde IV Pemoline IV Pentazocine Free Base IV Pentazocine HCl II Pentabarbital II Pentabarbital Sodium II Phencyclidine HCl II Phencyclidine-d5 HCl III Phendimetrazine Bitartrate IV Phenobarbital IV Phenobarbital Sodium IV Phentermine HCl II Phenylacetone IV Prazepam II d-Propoxyphene HCl II d-Propoxyphene-d7 I Psilocin II Secobarbital II Secobarbital Sodium II Secobarbital-d8 III Stanozolol III Stanozolol-d3 IV Temazepam I Tenocyclidine III Testosterone III Testosterone-d3 III Testosterone Acetate III Testosterone Benzoate III Testosterone Cypionate III Testosterone Enanthate III Testosterone Glucuronide III Testosterone Glucuronide Potassium III Testosterone Glucuronide Sodium III Testosterone Hemisuccinate III Testosterone Phenylpropionate III Testosterone Propionate I delta8-Tetrahydrocannabinol I delta9-Tetrahydrocannabinol I delta9-Tetrahydrocannabinol-d3 II Thebaine Alkaloid Powder III Thiamylal Sodium III Thiopental III (+-)-Thiopental Sodium IV Triazolam II Tropacocaine HCl OTHER DEA CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES Not classified, but reporting required by the DEA. When ordering any of these items, please provide your written purchase order, your acceptance of the administrative fee, the intended ultimate use, and the signature of the end user. 4-Amino-2,2,6,6-tetramethylpiperidine 2-Ethylpiperidine 1-Ethylpiperidine 1-(2-Hydroxyethyl)piperidine 3-Hydroxymethyl-1-methylpiperidine 3-Hydroxy-N-methylpiperidine 1-Methylpiperidine 2-Methylpiperidine 3-Methylpiperidine 4-Methylpiperidine 3-Phenylacetylamino-2,6-piperidinedione Piperidine cis-2,3-Piperidinedicarboxylic Acid cis-2,4-Piperidinedicarboxylic Acid cis-2,5-Piperidinedicarboxylic Acid cis-2,6-Piperidinedicarboxylic Acid Piperidine-4-sulfonic Acid 2,2,6,6-Tetramethylpiperidine SUBSTANCES NOT CONTROLLED BY THE DEA These items are available without DEA license. Telephone and telegraph orders are accepted. There is no administrative fee for handling these items. They may be exported, provided the country of destination does not control their importation, possession, or use. N-Allylnormetazocine p-Bromophenylethylamine 2-(p-Chlorophenyl)ethylamine 3,4-Dimethoxyphenylethylamine p-Fluorophenylethylamine HCl 3-Hydroxy-4-methyl-a-ethylphenylethylamine HCl 3-Hydroxy-4-methoxyphenylethylamine HCl 5-Methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine p-Methoxyphenylethylamine 3-Methoxytyramine HCl N-Methyltryptamine Pseudonarcotic Cocaine Formulation Pseudonarcotic Heroin Formulation nobody@nowhere.nohow, a subsidiary of The Strychnine Universe, Inc. -- To post anonymously to alt.drugs send a message to ap.4151@cupid.sai.com. All lines after a line containing only "--" will be stripped. Remember: These articles are anonymous, but not secure. ============================================================================= Message-ID: <111305Z30051995@anon.penet.fi> Newsgroups: alt.drugs.chemistry,alt.drugs From: an219881@anon.penet.fi Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 11:08:15 UTC Subject: DEA bottom line My anonymous pen pal asked me to post this for him. -OliveOil I have been reading with some interest the information concerning watched chemicals on this Newsgroup for some time. Wherever government oppression is concerned it is often impossible to cut through the bullshit, because the rules will change on a case by case basis...this is especially true in these times of mandatory FED sentences, forced plea bargains, the repeal of the US Constitution by an outlaw FED system without a whimper from the stupified flock of sheep who think this is the land of the brave, home of the free. Increased private interest in declaring war on the domestic population for profit in lieu of a commie boogie man and the expansion of State and Fed concentration camp systems put an even greater strain on the FEDs to violate their own rules, legal or not, for conviction rates. Despite this situation, can't the entire 'watched chemical' argument be boiled down to a single fact? If you have to sign something and produce ID when you are purchasing, then you've just been watched! No matter what you Mail order, you take that chance unless you can manage an anon.address@Realtime, cuz they know where you are! If you can walk into a Chem supply house, pay cash, walk out with what you want, then you ain't been watched! Now, it would seem that the trick to buying suspicious chemicals from a distributer would be to order will call, fake name, stay below the threshold amounts, walk in, pay cash, haul ass. If they ask you for ID, tell them you're not interested in getting on any mailing lists, if they insist,leave My experience with these people is that if your money is green, they don't give a fuck what you're doing with these chemicals, they are interested in adhering to reporting guidelines to stay in business, they're in business to sell chemicals. I am assuming that staying under threshold amounts relieves the supplier of his responsibility to ID you as a customer, and file a report. Therefore, the only pertinant information in this discussion is simply, "Is there a threshold amount connected to this chemical? If so, what is it?" My simple approach to this problem has always been, don't mail order anything, don't sign anything. The volume of information on this subject in this Newsgroup would lead me to think perhaps there is more to it than this, but if there is, I don't see it. If I'm missing something please reply. Nevertheless, I am one of many who appreciates the efforts of the frequent contributers to this group and the valuable information they provide. Stay Free_POPEYE ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi. If you reply to this message, your message WILL be *automatically* anonymized and you are allocated an anon id. Read the help file to prevent this. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin@anon.penet.fi.